I don’t really mind getting into debates about the deeper reaches of Christianity; I’ve had some YouTube encounters with Shirley Phelps Roper devotees about the Amish and Christianity; with Atheists regarding online pronouncements, etc…
Part of the “problem” with Christianity is that Christians don’t fight very well, not in the literal sense of course but it’s a tendency to get beaten up in these internet scuffles.
I regard this mainly as a tough distinction that needs to be drawn between loving your human enemy, and hating evil.
Satan loves to play with this, I feel he believes that he carries some sort of power because of the so-called helplessness of Christians to decry evil, or even to discern it.
Satan realizes it isn’t the truth, but because so many Christians don’t, he gets away with it…
If you look at Jesus behavior however, its true that He was careful to love people who may have contained pockets of evil, he pulled no punches whatsoever though when it came to any topic that somehow disgraced God, His Father.
Turning over tables and yelling at people doesn’t construe loving your enemies; well it does insomuch as He is conveying truth and visibly displaying the attitude of His Father towards any disrespect of His house; but it clearly is anger that Jesus was communicating and not “that you are being loved”.
Christians need to stop being so weak when intellectually dealing with people such as Sam Harris, or those whose viewpoint on message boards matches his.
The Atheists, Humanists, Secularists, etc…win these debates online again and again; the reason why they win these debates is because they are intellectually prepared for the conversations.
Christians have a responsibility to do the same for what they believe; we need to get smarter; understand Christianity better, be able to really engage in these discussions and logically explain the reasons why God, Jesus and Christianity do make sense in modern society.
Sam Harris is just the latest example of someone who wants to rewrite the rules; and comes across mostly via credentials as someone who understands the subject matter better than Christians do…in other words, a flat-out tool of Satan.
The truth is he doesn’t understand the subject matter anywhere near well enough; he doesn’t realize that God has most likely prevented nuclear confrontation to preserve His plan for mankind; doesn’t understand that Heaven will be a perfect society and that no sin will be let into that society; no concessions will be made for what people want to believe is OK vs. what God believes.
He doesn’t realize that God created all of this for a reason. Or, like most Atheists, he’s just covering up his own desire to sin by discrediting God. It has nothing to do with Christianity’s rules not working in society; he just has no concept how to apply them to society.
Where Sam Kinison had most of these types beat, is that he reconciled within himself that he was a sinner and chose it. He walked away from a ministry and chose to be “bad”.
I don’t know with all of his comedy through the years that he ever really came out and said it; but in watching him in the mid-late 80’s, I could say with a pretty reasonable certainty that he preferred women to God and once he got an unscriptural divorce he knew he was finished; not just with the ministry but with God himself. He made a choice to be bad, one that God will allow but with consequences later.
He gave him years and years to fix it, but once Sam made the choice to marry again God finally said “enough” and he was taken. I respect Sam Kinison for one reason though, he was man enough to walk away for an honest preference and chose sin.
(note the first joke at 0:31, probably the only joke ever told on national television to tormenting spirits, but you never had to convince Sam Kinison that God was real)
Most atheists just can’t handle that, they don’t want to go through life being “bad” so they just throw God in the trash instead to justify their own behavior.
“I want gay marriage to be OK”. Sorry, God said no. Barack Obama honors God with that stance; I like that in a President…and it has nothing to do with judgment. You don’t judge by discerning right and wrong, in fact if you fail to do so you are letting people live in denial and that is in fact not loving your neighbor.
I have no idea how people like Sam Harris, who somehow believe that they are entitled to throw God’s rules in the garbage when they don’t believe those rules fit their purpose, parent their own children everyday.
When your child questions your motives, questions your values, believes he or she is entitled to set their own rules as they see fit, they are corrected by parents that know better; that understand that they are actually acting in the best interests of their children in how they are raising them, in what they believe and why they act how they do.
But you don’t see God in that, Sam Harris?
When your child is clever enough to defy their parent’s rules by not coming home after school; but instead decides to spend the evening doing charity work instead and come home at 11:30 at night; and are proud of themselves because they did something “good” with their time; how does a responsible parent answer?
“Yes you did, but you defied me in doing it. Did you have to?”
Christianity doesn’t cause anything that Sam Harris is bothered by; Satan does. Why would anyone throw God away and let Satan win because of what he caused in the first place? Do you see who’s driving here?
Christians are not only entitled to defend God; they are obligated to.
…end of rant.