Apollo and Iamaphoney

Fair Use has become a big deal to me as I continue my writing, and without question the copyright holders of Beatle related materials have been very active scrubbing the internet recently. A post made to the Education Forum recently regarding the Beatles made mention of this, I tried to address it over there.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18139&page=7

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On the JFK page there was recently a thread started about Jim Fetzer asserting that Paul McCartney did in fact die and was replaced in 1966; I don’t share that view but there was a post regarding the overall Paul is Dead phenomenon that I’d like to address in this thread–

 

 

Sandy Larsen, on 20 Aug 2016 – 8:29 PM, said:

Jim,

 

It seems that most people these days deny the clues even exist. Nobody has come forward to admit they do. But there were definitely “clues” planted in some of the songs. And I think in some of the photos as well, though those things may just be weird psychedelic Beatles stuff. (A lot of it does seem to single out Paul, which is curious.)

 

Several years ago I went to YouTube and listened to some recording of Strawberry Fields where somebody says “I buried Paul. The word “I” and the letter “d” in buried aren’t enunciated clearly. So it sounds more like “ah bury paul…” with the “l” sound trailing off at the end.

 

A couple years later I went back to YouTube to see if there were clues I hadn’t heard before. At one point I wanted to hear the “I buried Paul” thing again. (Just reminiscing.) And the strangest thing happened. First, I noticed that there weren’t near as many clips of this to listen to. It was like most had disappeared. Anyway, I listened to one of the clips that was there. It no longer said “ah bury Paul!” Instead it said “an bury sau.” I thought, what the heck? I’d listened to that thing numerous times over the decades and I’d always heard “ah bury Paul.” Till then.

 

So I listened to all the clips I could find, and not one of them said what I’d always heard before. Not one! I read the comments, and most people were saying they heard it as “cranberry sauce.” Hmmm….

 

I was suspicious. I did a Google search of the YouTube website (that is to say, NOT a search from within YouTube) for the phrase “I buried Paul.” This time I got numerous hits, just like before. Back then Google saved a cache of every deleted page. I clicked on the Cache link for several of these, and they all showed a notification that the video had been deleted because of copyright violation!

 

Do you see what I was discovering? The “I buried Paul” clips had all been removed and replaced with the new and different “cranberry sauce” clips. (Why were these select clips allowed to remain?)

 

There’s more.

 

I then listened again very carefully to several of the “cranberry sauce” versions, and I actually found an intermediate version. It was like halfway between “ah bury Paul” and “an bury sau” (or, rather, “an berry sau”) versions. I don’t recall now, but something like “ah bury sau.” Actually, I believe that was it.

 

So, in summary, what started out as “ah bury Paul” transitioned to “ah bury sau,” and that later transitioned to “an bury sau” (“an berry sau”). Or at least, I believe that was the order of the transition. Because it only makes sense if someone were trying to gradually change “I buried Paul” to “cranberry sauce.”

 

Some of you are probably saying I’m crazy, but I’m not. This really happened.

 

Over the decades I have always believed that the Beatles clues were intentionally planted… some are so obvious. Probably as a marketing stunt, though maybe John was just goofing around with the tracks, recording stuff backward for kicks. But I also always believed that the Beatles later wished they hadn’t done it. It was a stain on their reputation.

 

It is my belief that when they saw what was happening with YouTube, they decided to take action on the most obvious of the clues, the one that doesn’t require being played backward. And that was the “I buried Paul” clue. (Other clues may have been changed on YouTube as well. I wouldn’t be able to tell since I’ve only heard those two or three times each.)

 

The Beatles have most certainly been exercising their right to remove based on Copyright even though Fair Use is often claimed; the most notable exception is the group Iamaphoney, whose videos have remained largely intact…it is said elsewhere in the thread that no one has really come forward to talk about any of this, and there possibly is also a notable exception to that.

 

 

 

Iamaphoney’s Beatles mystery series as you can see remains untouched, and there is a very interesting story behind this: reportedly, Apple Records head and career-long Beatles insider Neil Aspinall supposedly started a group called Iamaphoney back in the 90’s to set the record straight regarding the many Beatle myths that had developed through the years and set out to collect all of the obscure Beatle related materials he could get his hands on as a way of preserving the record.

 

Now, the internet is a very interesting place quite obviously; and with the rise of forums and digital media came a renewed interest in the Paul is Dead phenomenon, due to being able to post images, video and audio clips of the original clues, as well as some that were discovered later in the post-Beatles era.

 

I’ll be the first to say, that some of the posters to the Paul is Dead forums are kind of out there; but there are others that are quite rational and grounded, and some of these people believed more in an overall mystery regarding the Beatles than anything else…Paul is Dead was but one possible answer, the question though by everyone is why the clues?

 

Well in 2003 a mysterious internet poster appeared on the two most popular Paul is Dead forums who went by the moniker Apollo C Vermouth. Apollo posted infrequently, but attained a reputation as an insider, a veritable deep throat of the Paul is Dead Beatles mysteries; he insisted that there indeed was a mystery to be solved, and that mystery was centered around the Sgt. Pepper album with years of other Beatles clues pointing back toward that album. His position was that the mystery had simply never been solved. (if you search for Apollo C Vermouth on Google, there are collections of his posts)

 

Apollo posted with less and less frequency from 2003-2007, making one final e-mail message to a number of Nothing is Real members in January of 2008 and then was heard from no more. In April of 2008 a group member known as NIR Committee then made this post. http://invanddis.pro…nir-member-dies

 

This group alleged, and continues till this day, that Apollo C Vermouth was in fact Neil Aspinall; the head of Apple Records for over 30 years had been posting on Paul is Dead forums for the past 5 years. I should say at this point that I believe them; some of the members with the best reputations on that forum were among those insisting Apollo was in fact Neil.

 

If so, there is a very prominent exception to no one having had spoken up about the Beatles mysteries. Even more interesting is that late in Apollo’s reign on the internet, an internet poster trying to obtain funding for a series on the Beatles suddenly started making clips on YouTube under the pseudonym Iamaphoney, matching the group Neil Aspinall started in the nineties.

 

This series started off relatively simple and then suddenly became much more elaborate, with a sudden legion of others commenting on the videos, giving off an impression that “Iamaphoney” had suddenly become much more professional and perhaps much better funded. They also had Beatles related materials that no one had ever seen. They also started doing videos on location from all over the world; this one person now having seemingly unlimited resources.

 

This is the group whose internet videos have been largely left alone by the Beatles.

 

The working theory is, and this is in no way proven, that Neil Aspinall’s Iamaphoney group started funding the Iamaphoney group making the Beatle mystery videos on YouTube. When Neil died, the series suddenly became much more bizarre although seemingly just as well funded and the new material largely ceased. The promised revelation from Iamaphoney never was revealed; and the rumored reason why is that MPL, Paul McCartney’s own firm, took over the series upon Neil’s death and wouldn’t allow for there to be an answer.

 

Most of the people responding to the Jim Fetzer post on the JFK page consider this to be a hoax, as do most people  everywhere I’m sure. I have given on pages 6-7 of this thread my answer to this; that I think Paul is Dead is actually God is Dead and this is the mystery alluded to by Apollo, I’ve been working on a book about it for a few years now.

 

But just as a consideration regarding this all being a hoax, in addition to Apollo and the Iamaphoney group, consider that Heather Mills was seemingly in fear for her life if what she knew about Paul was made public according to her, and went on a number of interview shows saying so, before being gagged by the divorce decree. Russ Gibb, the DJ who was one of the first responsible for breaking Paul is Dead in 1969, said that he had been told something after the furor died down that he has never divulged and was considering giving it as a deathbed revelation. Julian Lennon, after being snubbed for a number of events by Paul, said on Facebook “what have I done to be treated in such a way. Gimme some truth, maybe now its time to tell the truth” before deleting the post.

 

It may still be up for debate just what the mystery is about, but there is something more than meets the eye with these clues.

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Iamaphoney

 

As it has stood for over 3 years now, Iamaphoney was a massive disappointment to everyone who waited for his (their) Revelation and unfortunately seems to have ultimately had the effect of driving away a pretty good chunk of the people researching the Beatles mysteries.

http://invanddis.proboards.com/thread/93/apple-2?page=1

If you read through the 239 page thread of Iamaphoney’s Rotten Apple series, its fairly striking just how into everything people were for the first year and a half of the series; its a Paul is Dead world that just isn’t resident anymore, everyone probably just watching zombies instead.

http://xdell.blogspot.com/2014_03_01_archive.html

It may well be the truth that Iamaphoney actually started from Neil Aspinall, and the org kind of swept up the characters that ultimately made up this group that produced these videos; but its also clear that the sad and unfortunate impact of the years of 2006-2012 was to turn off most of those who had been turned on. Maybe Neil’s death did mess the whole story up, messed up whatever plan there had been.

However I’d just like to put something out there, mainly because I believe that Time, God is Dead, the ATL (Atlanta) based obituary in the Is God Dead issue of Time on April 8th 1966 was the true answer to the Sgt. Pepper riddle and was in fact the “code”, however much deeper it goes; it does give an actual answer to this whole thing, one I dropped last week at the end of the 239 page thread so that one actually exists in there somewhere.

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What I’d like to point out is at the beginning of the Los Angeles suitcase video above; where Iamaphoney puts up a shot of the Equitable building. See, I’m pretty sure that this isn’t the Los Angeles Equitable building, its in fact the Atlanta Equitable building.

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So, we have Iamaphoney, who had been cryptically saying Its Time since back in 2007, alluding to Atlanta going all the way back as well. The BIII poster at NIR, not only had a Time sock puppet account post the Its Time video on the anniversary of God’s death on November 8th 2007, but he also made exactly 48 posts (think April 8th, 4/8) before ceasing to post.

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(In case you don’t get this, per the Obituary as you can read above, God died just before Midnight, making His death technically November 8th; with the Obituary itself being dated November 9th. Iamaphoney alias The King of Cosmania posted the Its Time video on November 8th 2007 and was displayed by presumed sock puppet account Time at NIR)


 

This isn’t the only example of this. Rotten Apple 199 at the beginning shows in order: God, Its Time, IM (In other words, I AM) and then ATL from Amoeba’s Secret.

The point being, that no Iamaphoney never came out and told everyone what the answer was; if the org became part of MPL I would believe they weren’t allowed to say what the answer was, certainly some of what came in later years would seem to have been fairly deliberate obfuscation; but what “Time” is going to show, is they not only did know the answer, they hid it in their videos.

I actually appreciate that, and hopefully the stance on their work will soften over time, once that all becomes understood.


…and more supporting evidence.

(Within You Without You-We were talking about the space between us all…the space between the 4 Beatles where the drum and ATL in Beatles are located.)

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Hidden in the yard
underneath the wall
buried deep below
A
Thousand
Layers
lay the answer to it all.                                                                                                            –Paul McCartney (House Of Wax)

The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions Asked That Lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly Flowers In The Dirt.                                                                  –Apollo C Vermouth

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Apollo C Vermouth

It occurs to me that people reading this somewhat disjointed group of posts that make up this blog may not really get what all of the fuss is about, and how The Beatles are so prominently involved. Well let me try to explain…

Once upon a time, in the fall of 1969 there was a rumor that spread that Paul McCartney had died and had been secretly replaced by a lookalike (and of course, a sound alike and a musician alike). There were clues in the albums, both in the visuals, in the movies, and in the music itself.

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This went on for about a month, a lot of people got out their Beatle materials, went wow, concluded that of course Paul McCartney didn’t really die, and moved on with their lives.

That’s what most people did.

A choice few however, never really shook the possibility that Paul did die and had been replaced. After all, there are all of these clues. These few would go to various conventions and study more and put more clues together in an attempt to bolster their position. Books have even been written through the years to further the beliefs of this small group.

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Heading into the modern internet era, forums sprang up to discuss Paul is Dead, or PID as it is now known. Two of the most popular being Nothing is Real and The King is Naked. The King is Naked espoused a particular document and theory while Nothing is Real was more of an all purpose Paul is Dead, or Paul was replaced and is still alive somewhere, or a forum for any roll your own theory on all of this. My own forum, started with The Sgt. Pepper Code author Redwel Trabant is called MysteryTramp and was started to eliminate some of the obfuscation happening everywhere else. Ours is somewhat exclusive, in that when someone registers and starts spouting nonsense about every musician having been replaced by space aliens, we just delete them.

Now of course most people reading this are laughing and saying this is silly, Paul McCartney didn’t really die. Yeah, most of us get that, in fact the primary purpose of the MysteryTramp forum is to discuss the mystery without concluding that Paul McCartney died. If someone shows up that thinks so its fine (but not the everyone replaced by space aliens stuff), but so far that hasn’t happened and is only a couple of people talking about what they believe. We function on the premise that, gasp, the clues are all really there whether Paul is dead or not, and maybe the clues mean something else. There are even people like myself that posit something really outrageous: that there may be more clues than the Beatles even intended and how does that happen?

Well lets go back now to The King is Naked and Nothing is Real. There was a member of each forum, who didn’t post very often, named Apollo C Vermouth. He posted as an insider, cryptic postings of someone who seemed to actually know what this was all about. He never gave “the answer”, but instead tried to give clues to point the other members in a particular direction. He was the Deep Throat of Beatles mystery and PID. This is quite real. Apollo posted infrequently for a few years and then one day there was a new post from the people running the Nothing is Real forum stating that Apollo had died, and in fact was Neil Aspinall.

Neil Aspinall, for those who don’t know, was part of the Beatles inner circle from the very beginning and for years was the head of Apple Records. That might seem somewhat unbelievable and this will seem even more unbelievable. One of the most popular accounts of the early days of YouTube was a Beatles mystery account named Iamaphoney. It was also rumored that Aspinall was running the Iamaphoney group and in fact after his death the group became part of Paul McCartney’s own firm MPL at which point in their series the new revelations largely stopped and it became more spooky entertainment with not much to be revealed. I have no idea if that is true and am certainly not saying it is, I do believe however that Paul publicly is incredulous about PID while privately promoting the whole thing.

Although many questioned that Apollo C Vermouth was really Neil, those running the NIR forum insisted that this is indeed the case. If so, there was an actual insider trying to lead the other members towards what the Beatles were actually on about during the late sixties and implying there was something much deeper than just the fate of Paul McCartney. Presented here, are all of the existing Apollo posts (he did delete some others himself along the way).

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Are YOU credible?

I have no hidden agenda. My “riddle”,
as you put it, requires nothing more than to look at the very thing you seek, and realize it was THERE all the while.

Eschew obsfucation. Dig?

There IS nothing you can see that isn’t shown. Sound familiar?

My posts? Deleted. I had my say. Said too much, in fact. I hate to give away the ending to the movie. But, I can supply the popcorn.

Perplexed:
Touche

Apollo

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There remains a great many truths yet to be uncovered. This has only been in the making for the last 30 odd years, yet, witness the great strides that have been taken within the last year as a result of this particular forum.

Still, there remains flowers in the dirt.

In the frenzy of seeking that still unturned stone, some grasp at smoke and shadows to fill in the shallow grave, only to find hands empty and bleeding from the struggle.

I say, the truth is hidden in plain sight. Every piece of the puzzle, in one box. To understand that is to understand the length, width, and depth of what you wish to uncover.

Eschew obsfucation!

Apollo

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If you in fact have any interest in the affairs of this forum, it would be wise to take your voice to the holder of the documents in question. I, like yourself, am only a guest here. Nothing more, nothing less.

I make no apologies for my cryptic style of pose. For those that find me a pest, it takes little effort to push the back button. For those that find some hidden value in my words, then another piece of the puzzle is placed.
I have made no claims, nor asked no quarter. I am, who I am.

Now, here’s the strange part.

I have stated in this dialouge, that it was indeed myself that deleted the bulk of my posts.

The question you asked, pertaining to the Pepper cover, was answered when the pic was put up in the thread. Several times, in fact. Have you had the pleasure? You obviously have. Was this an intentional, Beatle directed ploy? Jury’s still out on that one.
But still, the results of that exercise were somewhat remarkable, you think?

Every face on that cover tells a story.
Every plant, statue, doll, and prop. Each one a perspective clue. Each put there for a specific reason. Currently, on another thread, the inclusion of Shirley Temple, and her numerous sightings on the cover, is being discussed. I offered a take on the inclusion of Edgar Allen Poe. It all connects in the scope of things. Maybe, you will offer some differing angle on this very topic.

As for your analogy of my pressence here, you couldn’t be more wrong. For the most part, my contributions here meet with little fanfare. I seldom post, and only offer my “cryptic musings” in connection with a viable lead in connecting another clue. If not for your initial post, many would not have even noticed the deletion of my posts. So much for my “delusions of grandeur.”

So, do you wish to add to the investigation/conversation, or belittle me further? For I find little reason to continue the latter, and grow tiresome of being the focus of this charade.

What could be more direct than that?

Apollo

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“To every problem there is a solution. If there is no solution, then it’s a fact of life and you have to live with it.” Issy Bonn

A telling quote from the man waving behind Paul.

Apollo

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There may seem to be several references
to Edgar Allen Poe spanning several albums.Poe is known to to place ciphers in his works for the reader to solve. The most famous being, “The Gold Bug.” Some works of his put the clues in plain sight as a tease to the readers. It is not a stretch to believe that this was an inspiration to place clues in the pictures and lyrics of the Beatles.Poe is seen amongst the crowd on the
Sgt. Pepper cover.Poe is mentioned in the song “I am the Walrus.”Poe may have been the inspiration for the song “Blackbird.” His famous work “The Raven” comes to mind.And, during the track “Revolution #9” the word “Eldorado” is heard. Poe penned a poem titled “Eldorado.” I will post that post haste.Poe’s own death has been a mystery of sorts as well. One version has him being intoxicaed and kidnapped, forced by his kidnappers to place votes in different districts during an election.
His already ill health and added exhaustion caused his early death. Might that sound somewhat familiar?

One story concerning just one person found on the Sgt. Pepper cover. Many more to discover.

“There’s nothing you can see that isn’t shown.”

“It’s easy.”

Apollo

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ELDORADO
(Edgar Allen Poe)Gaily bedlight,
a galient kniight
in sunshine and in shadow.
Had journeyed long,
singing a song,
in search of Eldorado.But he grew old
this knight so bold,
and o’er his heart a shadow.
Fell as he found
no spot of ground
that looked like Eldorado.And, as his strength
failed him at length,
he met a pilgrim shadow.
“Shadow,” said he
“where can it be,
this land of Eldorado?”“Over the mountains
of the moon,
down the valley of the shadow.
Ride, boldly ride”
the shade replied,
“if you seek for Eldorado!”

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If Lewis Carrol influenced Lennon”s writing style, Stockhausen opened new doors for John’s musical ideas.

Stockhausen’s “Hymnen” was the total inspiration for John’s “Revolution #9”, and influenced Paul’s “Carnival of Light” as well.

The Beatles were frantic in getting Stockhausen”s permission to include him on the “Sgt. Pepper” cover. Having sent a telegram on the first day of May that went unanswered, Epstein sent yet another urgent telegram on the 8th to get him on the cover to assure the projected release date.

There’s nothing you can know that isn’t known.

Apollo

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Lucy (in disguise)

Maybe this might help…

Bring on the Lucie (Freeda People)
John Lennon

We don’t care what flag you’re waving.
We don’t even wanna know your name.
We don’t where you’re from or where your going.
All we know is that you came.
You’re making all our decisions.
We have just one request of you.
That while you are thinking things over.
Here’s something you just better do.

Free the people now
Do it do it do it now

Well we were caught with our hands in the air.
Don’t despair, paranoia is everywhere.
We can shake it with love when we’re scared.
So, let’s shout it aloud like a prayer.

We understand your paranoia.
But we don’t wanna play your game.
You think you’re cool and know what you are doing.
666 is your name.
So, while you’re jerking off each other.
You better bear this thought in mind.
Your time is up you better know it.
But maybe you don’t read the signs.

Well you were caught with your hands in the kill.
And you still got to swallow your pill.
As you slip and slide down the hill.
On the blood of the people you killed.

Stop the killing now.
Do it do it do it now
Bring on the Lucie.

Apollo

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Have “fun” with this one…

www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/Martin.htm

Apollo

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“Lives on a farm, got plenty of charm, BEEP BEEP.
He’s got no cows but he sure has a whole lotta SHEEP.
A brand new wife and a family.
And when he comes to town I WONDER if he’ll play with me.”This being Ringo’s description of our old friend Macca. He goes on to include George and John as well in the following verses.The rather odd “beep beep” in the lyrics is an obvious reference to an automobile, although it does not quite fit with the content.Garry Crimble,
Apollo

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It appeared as the “B” side of “It Don’t Come Easy.” Later, it was included on the album “Blast Fron Your Past.”

The verse about Paul was first, followed by…

“Laying in bed, watching tv, cookie.
With his mama by his side, she’s japanese.
They screamed and they cried, now they’re free.
And when he comes to town, I KNOW he’s gonna play with me.

He’s a long-haired, cross-legged guitar picker um-um.
With his long-leged lady in the garden picking daisies for his soup.
A forty-acre house he doesn’t see,
’cause he’s always in town playing for you with me.

I play guitar, a-d-e
I don’t play bass ’cause that’s toohard for me.
I play piano if it’s in “c”
And when I go to town, I wanna see all three.”

Apollo

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Too many people are deaf in one ear, and blind in the other.

Apollo

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Consider this…

Pay no attention to the man at the piano, but rather what is placed ON the piano.

Apollo

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Points to ponder…

In a 1978 “made for television” special, Ringo, being tired of fame and fortune, trades places with an unknown look-alike named “Ognir Rrats.”

Guess who is billed as one of the actors?

Also, in the film adaptation of “Sgt. Pepper”, guess who also has a part in this musical misadventure?

Time’s up…

Apollo

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“There’s nothing you can SEE that isn’t
SHOWN.”Are we looking?Apollo

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Pardon the intrusion…

“He blew his mind out in a car. He didn’t notice that the LIGHTS had changed.”

“Red lights, green light, strawberry wine…”

“A good friend of mine…”

An interesting read…

www.online-mythology.com/apollo_hyacinthus

Hyacinths adorn the Sgt. Pepper cover.

“Flowers in the dirt”

Apollo

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“Those FREAKS was right when they said you was dead.”

Apollo

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Pardon the intrusion…

The good sister quotes, “We all know James Paul is dead…duh!”

Well, what “we” know is that post ’66
another face and voice appears, while another seems to vanish into the ether.

Yet, we have no proof of an actual death. Only speculation.

It is still my stance that what information you need to connect the dots still remains hidden in plain sight.

I find it curious that when John penned “How Do You Sleep?”, he referred to those seeking answers as “freaks.”

And, not in a “good” way.

Which leads me to take another hard look at the song, and who it is really focused upon.

Paul finds no problem addressing himself as a “freak.”

As you are finding out, in the world of “clues”, the most obvious sometimes only serves as a distraction to what is clearly being displayed.

And, it is always a nice touch to quote Hendrix.

Apollo

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Pardon the intrusion…

Byrds is hitting on all cylinders with that reply.

Keep in mind the dialouge between John and Paul with “Imagine” and “Ram.”

Paul-“Three Legs”
John-“Crippled Inside”

Paul-“Too Many People”
John-“How Do You Sleep”

On the “Ram” album, in the song “Monkberry Moon Delight”
Paul writes:
“I know my bananna is OLDER than the rest, and my hair is a tangled beretta. So, I leave my pajamas to BILLY BUDAPEST, and I don’t get the gist of your letter.”

Is that “graspable” enough?

Apollo

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Some points to ponder…

WHAT was the “relationship” between Paul and Tara?

What effect did Tara’s passing have on “Paul?”

What exactly is he saying in the song “Venus and Mars”?

Remember, by the time of MMT, all the players had been set into motion. The clues on “Sgt. Pepper” tell the story.
There was “no going back” from that event. (despite later pleas to reconsider) Everything that happened beyond that point had to follow script.

“Two are flying, two are not.”

Apollo

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Pardon the intrusion…

Keeping in mind the somewhat sinister origins of many of the “Mother Goose” nursery rhymes, you may find the following read interesting enough to reconsider the song “Cry Baby Cry.”

When John was interveiwed for Playboy magazine, and giving insights to some of better works stated that the song was “rubbish”
and not one of his.

Yet, he repeats the theme for the song “Cleanup Time” on Double Fantasy” almost word for word.

He must not of hated it THAT much.

Here is how “coded messages” were being sent via harmless “nursery rhymes.”

www.snopes.com/lost/sixpence.htm

Apollo

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Pardon the intrusion…

I’m not really sure just where to start. First, I have not posted as anybody other than meself, nor have I ventured out of this tight, and somewhat dysfunctional family of forums that have branched off from here. My purpose in entering the fray was merely to redirect your attention to the things that have been missed, and sorely overlooked, by the masses that have taken this paradigm on in an attempt to discover the truth. A truth that could have possibly lay in a state of myth-making limbo for future ages to try and unravel. Case in point, it HAS been over thirty years with little movement in that direction. A rehash of the garden variety “clues” that have graced the page ad-nauseum. Albeit, not a simple task to say the least, but clearly one that was meant to be solved if one was venture down the “rabbit hole” with new eyes. No disrespect to those that have alluded to “new” information via the printed word, but in the scope of this investigation, adds nothing to this mystery but confusion and false leads. In all truth, there can be NOTHING that can be added to what has been supplied to you already. It’s always been there. It was part of the master plan. Subsequent releases after “Pepper” tried in vain to point you BACK in the right direction. But why waste time doing that when you all believed the shite that was produced by the myth-making-machinery. Well, time has passed and you are well on your way to uncover the lost gems of information that will tell the story start to finish. Stay on track!!! Remember…There nothing you can see that isn’t shown! It is all there for you to see, if you learn how to look.
If I have made your investigations harder by showing you new “flowers in the dirt”, I have done my job. You will soon discover the answers you seek to questions not yet asked. If you take my words and discredit the messenger, so be it. I am not here to supply you with answers. That is your job. I will however assist in any form that I am at liberty to share with you. “What did you see while you were there? Nothing that doesn’t show.”

Apollo

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Doc-Thanks for the kind words. I have been accused of being somewhat “cryptic” in my dealings in the past. To be quite honest. this whole affair is cryptic, in and of itself. I choose to take the path of greater resistance. The scenery is more pleasing to the eye.

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Pardon the intrusion…

Time to nip this one in the bud. Mr. Knotts simply left the small “screen” for one much larger. At NO time did he ever lend his acting talents to the Beatles or those associated with them. For those who take a serious interest in the premise of this forum, these “facts” do little to promote further investigation of the true facts at hand. I buried Barney…
War is over, if you want it!
Apollo

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Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes.

Apollo C. Vermouth

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Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #27 on Mar 30, 2004, 10:30pm »
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This particular fellow is the member of the Royal Antediluvian Order of the Buffaloes. (R.A.O.B)This group is known for the charitable acts they engage in to further the “pursuit of brotherhood.”When one thinks of the couuntless numbers of individuals to choose from for the cover of Sgt. Pepper, it makes one wonder why those who appear were the “chosen ones.”Take Stockhausen, for example. Several
telegrams were wired to him for approval in an almost frantic attempt to get him included on the cover.Why?Seems a bit more calculated than just liking the sound of the names.Upon a closer look, there seems to be some connections with the different faces that appear on the cover as well.

Much more than mere happenstance.

Many of the items such as the “Paul?”
flower display and the other articles
found gracing the cover tell a story as well.

There is more going on than meets the eye.

“There is nothing you can see that isn’t shown.”

Apollo
In July of 1966, Dylan was involved in a very serious motorcycle accident and spent many months in seclusion.

Besides being a strong influence in John’s writing style, he would be a likely canidate for inclusion on the Pepper cover using Harb’s observations.

Yet, there remains some rather strange
“connections” with other invited guest.

Edgar Allen Poe holds a rather dubious
record in Beatle lore. Not only appearing on the Pepper cover, but also being mentioned in song (I am the Walrus), and even speculated to have been the inspiration for the song “Blackbird” from his epic poem titled
“The Raven”, and the inclusion of the word “Eldorado” heard on “Revolution #9” from a poem by the same name.

Poe’s early works, mostly written for a Philly newspaper, dealt in the art of solving ciphers by using available clues.

His first books used many ciphers and written clues to solve the mystery along with the characters in the book.
The most obvious being a novel titled “The Goldbug.”

These tactics were not oblivious to the Beatles, who used the technigue to a great extent in developing the cover for Sgt. Pepper.

One strange connection is with the author Terry Southern who is also amongst the crowd on Pepper. Southern, among other great books, is known for his penning of “Dr. Strangelove,” which later became a hit movie by the same name.

In the book/movie, the dis-arm code used to diffuse the “bomb” was named “P.O.E.”, short for “Peace on Earth.”

The movie was directed by none other than Stanley Kubrick, whose unused footage from another film was used during the “Flying” segment on the “Magical Mystery Tour” movie.

And, it doesn’t stop there folks.

But we’ll leave that for another day.

Remember:
There’s NOTHING you can KNOW that isn’t KNOWN.

Apollo
Re: WALRUS
« Result #25 on Apr 2, 2004, 9:51pm »
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Points to ponder…

So many of the supposed “clues” found on MMT seem to point back towards Sgt. Pepper.

Case in point:

Hidden on the Pepper cover is a WALRUS.
Using your trusty mirror, place it vertically touching Diana Dors left elbow.

See him?

Yet, this “clue” pre-dates any mention in Beatle lore of a walrus. That would come on the following release, MMT.

Compare the two covers to each other.

On each cover the lads are dressed in costumes, each related, but different.

Both covers depict them as “another” band.

They both show them standing behind a banner. To the rear are a collection of stars, people on Pepper, actual star shapes on MMT.

Both albums feature a reference to Edgar Allen Poe, and our pesky friend, the Walrus.

And to Harb:

On your site, regarding clues found in the MMT booklet, you show the pic of John and George during the “Death Cab for Cutie” sequence, and state that no clues were found on that page.

But, the clue IS the picture!

It shows (memory lapse) either John or George wearing an item with a HEART on it, while sitting in a CLUB, watching a BAND.

It’s as though they chose to draw attention back to Pepper.

WHY?

And all this years before any of the PID rumours came to the surface.

What are we missing?

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #24 on Apr 3, 2004, 2:54pm »
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Lewis Carroll, besides gracing the cover of Pepper, may have had a hand in it’s recording as well.

We all know what effect he had on John and his unique style of writing, so we will pass over that one for now.

But little known is the technique employed by George Martin and Lennon for the organ sounds on “Mr. Kite.”

In the book titled, “Phantasmagoria and Other Poems” written by Carroll, is the poem “Poeta Fit, Non Nascitur.”

The poem involves a young man seeking advice from a more seasoned poet on how he could become a poet himself.

The elderly poet tells him in the following stanzas:

“For first you write a sentence, and then you chop it small.

Then mix the bits and sort them out,
just as they chance to fall.

The order of the phrases
makes no difference at all.”

This being the exact ploy used in the organ parts mixed into the song.

It shows to what extent the background information on each member of the “crowd” was used to formulate the creation of Sgt. Pepper and the mystery
surrounding it.

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #23 on Apr 4, 2004, 3:40pm »
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“It seems very pretty,” she said when she had finished it, “but it’s rather hard to understand!” (You see she didn’t like to confess even to herself,
that she couldn’t make it out at all)
“Somehow it fills my head with ideas–
only I don’t exactly know what they are! However, somebody killed something: that’s clear, at any rate—“
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #22 on Apr 11, 2004, 10:01am »
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“I saw a film today, oh boy, the English army had just won the war…”

There seems to be a small connection between the above lines from “A Day in the Life,” and the mysterious “Billy Shears.”

Although purely conjecture on my part,
it would seem that the “film” mentioned
may have been “The Bridge Over the River Kwai.”

Why?

Not to bore you with a synopsis of the film, (you can explore that one on your own) but it concerns members of the English army being held in a Japanese prison camp and used to construct a tactical bridge for their captors.

In the end, the bridge was ultimately
built and then destroyed by the English army, thus aiding in the victory over the Japanese.

One major character in the film, Lt. Commander SHEARS, was played by actor WILLIAM Holden. This character plays a pivitol role in the destruction of the bridge. In one scene, he tells a nurse that “all you need is love.” Actually, one of the memorable lines of the movie.

Could the name “Billy Shears” of SPLHCB be inspired by the character of this flim mentioned on the same album?

Seems logical as the mention of seeing a “film” was important enough to become lyrics of a song. What profound effect
did it have on Lennon, who went on to play in a movie titled, “How I Won the War.”

Comments?

Happy Easter!

Apollo
Re: WALRUS
« Result #21 on May 1, 2004, 12:42pm »
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Valid points, Larry.

Still, outside the Beatle’s inner-circle, there was nary a mention
of the “walrus” at the time of Sgt. Pepper’s release.

That would follow shortly after.

Yet, he remains “hidden” amongst the notable faces on Pepper.

It is my belief that there remains a plethora of clues on the Pepper cover that have yet seen the “light of day.”

It stands to reason that many subsequent “clues” that followed directed attention back to Sgt. Pepper.

“Magical Mystery Tour” contained many “Pepper” clues, and introduced our “walrus” to the public.

“Yellow Submarine” was based on the “Sgt. Pepper” theme.

Both “Abbey Road” and the “White Album” make reference to the “walrus” in song.

The “walrus” and “Sgt. Pepper” are even mentioned in Lennon’s solo work, and appears in Harrison’s “Fab” video.

They are directing our attention back to find what was missed.

And, going to great lengths to do so.

Apollo
Re: WALRUS
« Result #20 on May 2, 2004, 12:51am »
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Thanks, JoJo!

Again, this was the “Death Cab for Cutie” segment of the MMT movie.

It shows John with a “heart” on his hat while sitting in a “club” watching a “band.”

I had not noticed George’s hat, or the peculiar fellow in uniform with the straws. Great work!!

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #19 on May 2, 2004, 1:21am »
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Seems that Lewis Carroll’s inspiration, usually associated with Lennon’s work during the Sgt. Pepper/Magical Mystery Tour era, extends beyond the obvious and presents itself in places unexpected.

There is a connection with Carroll and McCartney’s song, “Hey Jude.”

In the “Through the Looking Glass” books, it seems that the White Queen has a habit that when she says the word “better,” she repeats it over and over again, each time getting more high pitched and louder until it ends in a squeal. At which time she completely transform herself into a “new creature”
or a new location.

Sound familiar?

“Better, better, better…”

Apollo
Re: KLAATU
« Result #18 on May 6, 2004, 9:10pm »
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Another topic dear to my heart.

We’ll take this is segments, as there is much to discuss.

Let’s start at the beginning…

In 1976, an album was released by a band named KLAATU. It was released on the Canadian affiliate of Capitol Records. No biographical information was included on the album jacket. Instead, it simply stated that all songs were written and performed by KLAATU. No pictures of the band graced the cover. Inquiries to Capitol for any info on this “mystery” band were left unanswered.

The problem was quite simply, the music contained within the grooves bore a striking Beatle-esque quality. With little imagination and a good set of ears, the vocals of Lennon and McCartney, Harrison and Starr could be heard amongst the Sgt. Pepper-ish era tunes.

Was this the second coming?

The album in question titled “3:47 EST”
in Cananda, and simply “Klaatu” here in the U.S. was soon rumored to be a un-released Beatle album that was a follow up to “Revolver.” That album was soon scrapped due to the death of Paul McCartney in a car accident in 1966. A replacement “Paul” was found, groomed, and presented to the world with the release of Sgt. Pepper. This was the account of why there was such a delay between the release of “Revolver” and “Sgt. Pepper.”

Time went by, and the tapes were re-discovered while combing through the excess while initial plans were in the making for what we now know as the “Anthology.” The album was then completed, and released under am assumed name as a tribute to McCartney in ’76.

Had the Beatles re-united in Canada under an assumed name in 1976 and released an album in memory of a fallen mate? And if so, what tell-tale “clues” could be discerned to prove just that?

To be continued…(if you’re interested)

Apollo
Re: KLAATU
« Result #17 on May 7, 2004, 9:53pm »
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Thanks for the replies!

Before I continue, I must address the fact that I personally do not find the “lost album” theory plausible.

Yet, it does not dampen the belief that indeed some, if not all of the Beatles
had a hand in the production of this album.

It was not uncommon for the lads to write, perform with, and produce artists under assumed names. Many examples can be found of this fact.

First, lets look at some of the visual clues found on the front and back covers of the record.

The name KLAATU, came from a 1950s era sci-fi film titled “The Day the Earth Stood Still.” As earlier discussed, the name was lifted from the lead character in the film.

A still from the film was used by Ringo Starr, with his face super-imposed upon the Klaatu character for his album “Goodnight Vienna.”

The large “Sun” on the cover can also be found inside the gatefold of George’s “33 1/3.” It is said that the face on the “sun” is a composite of John’s nose and chin, and Paul’s eyes.
Said to represent the common use of the “sun” in numerous Beatle lyrics and song titles.

The ornate scroll work that frames the front cover picture in the upper right and left corners resembles the head of a “ram.” Possibly an indication of Paul’s contributions to the record.
The reverse of the cover shows a planet that seems to mimic the “Venus and Mars” cover, as well. In the movie, when the character Klaatu was asked where he came from, he answered ” Venus and Mars.” Also, at the end of one particular McCartney concert, he said to the crowd, “See you when the Earth stands still..” before he departed the stage.

Along the bottom edge of the front cover is a row of shrubs. It is said that the letters spelling B-e-a-t-l-e-s can be found in the tangle of limbs.

There is also a small mouse (more on him later) pictured on the front cover.
It is implied that it’s name is “Little Neutrino.”(more on that later, as well)

Sound familiar?

A “neutrino” is a particle that can dis-appear, and re-appear at will. It can also pass through solid objects unknown and uneffected.

These are several of the supposed clues found on the cover . They seem to be referenced by the the solo works of the Beatles albums during this time period.

When asked of Paul McCartney if the Beatles would ever reunite, he once quipped that if they ever did, it would be soley for the music, and not the hype that surrounded it. ” A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.”

Next we’ll look at the words found in the lyrics of the songs for further clues…

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #16 on May 7, 2004, 10:22pm »
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Some of the items found on the cover tell a story as well.

Consider the use of the Hyacinth plant used to form the word “Beatles” on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.

What possible connection could be associated with a flower??

Lets take a look at the myth of it’s creation.

Hyacinthus, young son of the King of Sparta, beautiful like the very gods of Mount Olympos, was beloved by Apollo, the shooter of arrows.

The two would meet on the banks of the Eurotas River, and delight in various pastimes.

One day while the pair was trying to out do each other in a game of discus throwing, Hyacinthus trying to chase down Apollo’s last throw, was struck in the HEAD by the falling discus and killed.

Apollo, heartbroken at the loss of his friend by his own hand, and clutching the lifeless body in his arms, vowed to have him remembered for all time.

With one word from Apollo, a fragrant red flower arose from the spilled blood of his friend on the ground. On its petals you can still read the letters “Ay,” the sigh of pain that rose from Apollo’s grief stricken heart at the loss.

It seems curious that later in his carreer that McCartney would choose the name “APOLLO C. Vermouth” to produce a song for the Bozo Dog Band. A band that earlier was to provide the only non-Beatle song for the Magical Mystery Tour film.

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #15 on May 8, 2004, 12:39am »
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Interesting question, my good doctor.

I can only speculate as to the dubious inclusion of the Hyacinth plant on the cover.

I suspect it refers to the tragic death of Tara Browne. Both he and Paul were very close, and keeping with the mythology would seem to make sense.
And, the choice of Paul to assume the name of “Apollo” later in life only serves to cement the theory.

Yet, the flowers spell out the word “Beatles,” and the rumors of Paul’s death from head wounds suffered in a car accident puts a very unusual twist
to the mix.

Both scenarios would seem to follow suit.

Consider this for a moment…

Tara Browne was the “heir” to the Guiness fortune.

He was killed at a young age in a car accident.

“You were in a car crash, and you lost your hair.”

Ever notice that the words “hair” and “heir” can sound somewhat similar?

Just a silly tid-bit I pulled from my arse. Though it makes me wonder.

“You were in a car crash, and you lost your heir.”

Makes sense to me, if looked at in that manner.

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #14 on May 8, 2004, 1:42pm »
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Great questions, Darkhorse!

Like I said, I simply was playing around with the premise.

But, to answer your query, if Paul and Tara were both killed in seperate accidents, and the “Paul” from Sgt. Pepper was not who he seemed, then regardless of any relationship betwixt the two, the new “Paul” would have no reference to that freindship. It would fall on the other three to point it out.

From all accounts, John did not seem to be that close to Tara, citing that “A Day in the Life” was written partially about “that Guinness CHILD.” No love lost there, it appears.

You bring up some valid points.

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #13 on May 8, 2004, 7:51pm »
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I have always felt the lines from McCartney’s, “Venus and Mars” dealt briefly with a slightly intoxicated Tara leading up to the accident.

“Red lights, green lights, strawberry wine, a good friend of mine, follows the stars, Venus and Mars are alright tonight.’

Tara was known, through his personal wealth, to be able to hang with the hip crowd of the day.

“He blew his mind out in a car, he didn’t notice that the lights had changed.”

I’m sure there are other references to him, sprinkled about Paul’s solo work.

As far as “Fara” is concerned, I see little evidence to support such a theory. Interesting concept, though.
And, one that may warrant a closer look.

The whole reference to “Venus and Mars” itself may need a closer look as well.

It is semi-apparent that mythology may play a significant role in unfolding the story line.

I’ll take a peak and see what I can find. Anyone care to join me?

Apollo
Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #12 on May 9, 2004, 11:05am »
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Interesting choice of words, Doc. There seems to be a book titled “Shutters and Blinds,” that deals with aspects of Tara’a death. Forgot the author’s name at this time.

Seems that Tara was killed in the early
morning hours of 12-18-66. He was traveling to visit David Vaughn, who was doing some painting on the front of Tara’s Kings Road shop Dandy Fashions.

He smashed his Lotus Elan into the rear of a parked van while swerving to avoid a Volkswagon that pulled out in his path in Redcliffe Gardens in Earls Court.

From what I can glean, he was with a female friend who escaped the accident with minor injuries. Tara was dead at the scene.

As far as “Venus and Mars” are concerned, there are several differing stories. Venus is the god of peace, Mars the god of war. They were lovers, such as Hyacinthus and Apollo were lovers to a different degree.

Didn’t really find anything beyond that after a cursory search.

Happy Mother’s Day!

Apollo
Re: Did George Really Sing Fool on the Hill?
« Result #11 on May 12, 2004, 10:13pm »
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“Ev’rybody’s talking ’bout Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, This-ism, That-ism, ism, ism, ism…”

Apollo-ism
Re: SIR GEORGE’S COAT OF ARMS
« Result #9 on Nov 24, 2004, 8:01pm »
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Some points to ponder…

The “bird”, a Martin, holds the recorder in “bend sinister.” This being an old sign of illegitimacy. Sir George either feels like a “bastard”, or feels he worked with some “bastards.”

The white area betwixt the three beetles is called a “fess nebuly.”
It is thought to represent either “clouds’ or “Heaven.”
The lines contained within are called “barrulets” and may represent the muusical staff. If so, the absent notes may speak volumes.

Lastly, the zebra marches from right to left holding an “Abbot”s crozier.”

Can you think of any other “zebra crossings” this may refer too?

Apollo
Re: We all look at a “faul” figurine!
« Result #8 on Nov 24, 2004, 8:08pm »
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Another tasty tidbit…

When originally released, there was a second “Paul” figurine released as well. Same as shown above, yet the the other character in the set was “Captain Fred.”

Somewhat harder to find, it can be found still on eBay.

No word if it will be re-released as well with this lot.

Apollo
SIR PAUL’S COAT OF ARMS
« Result #7 on Nov 24, 2004, 11:30pm »
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Thought maybe you would enjoy this…

abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/news/1223paulcoatofarms.html

Apollo

*edited in order to post the pic for Apollo
Re: Window On Yellow Sub Decapitated Head With Hal
« Result #6 on Mar 22, 2006, 8:27pm »
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Sorry for the intrusion…

The “P” stands for “Pepperland.” This is another failed attempt to divert your attention back to the clues on Sgt. Pepper.

Numerous attempts were made post “Pepper” to redirect your focus. By this time, the “grand design” becomes a parody of itself. Do not confuse the two. It is a mistake that echoes to this day.

All is not lost. The message still remains.

Apollo
Re: Pepperpots Billy- probably not with Bee Gees
« Result #5 on Aug 30, 2006, 8:25pm »
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Pardon the intrusion…

Let’s see…The band on the cover was not the band on the record, but merely several lads in suits, made to look somewhat Beatle-ish, but appearing to look nothing like the Beatles themselves, which the band playing on the record could have pulled off if they had worn suits and had a picture taken and used it on the cover.
Quick…drink the Kool-Aid.

Apollo
Re: Tara Browne
« Result #4 on Jan 29, 2007, 9:01pm »
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Pardon the intrusion…

Seems that much has been made of Tara’s passing only through mention in part during “A Day in the Life.”
His “widowed bride” being excluded in most publications. Her name is Noreen MacSherry. She bore two sons. Tara being 21 years of age when he passed. Yet, nary a mention of the marriage in 1964. He being the son of the 4th Lord Oranmore and Browne and Oonagh Guinness, seems to beg for a polite mention on the “society page.”

Apollo

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IF I MAY INTRUDE, ONE LAST TIME…
I FIND MYSELF QUOTING THIS MORE OFTEN, AS OF LATE…”LIFE’S BUT A WALKING SHADOW. A POOR PLAYER THAT STRUTS AND FRETS HIS HOUR UPON THE STAGE, AND THEN IS HEARD NO MORE. IT IS A TALE TOLD BY AN IDIOT. FULL OF SOUND AND FURY,SIGNIFYING NOTHING”………..
FADE THIS SWAN TO BLACK….
LOVE FROM PAUL…
APOLLO C VERMOUTH

(Note:This was Apollo’s last post before his death in 2008)
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Lucy (in disguise)

Don’t go jumping waterfalls.
Please keep to the lake.
People who jump waterfalls.
Sometimes can make mistakes.
Apollo

May 31, 2004, 1:30pm

Lucy (in disguise)
“It’s easy.”
When all else fails, read the directions.
The cover of Sgt. Pepper was no mere happenstance.
And, not to sound like a “broken record,” but there remains a REASON for every person, place, and thing that appears.
The problem was, they counted on us being as clever as they. We simply didn’t “get it.”
Still don’t.
Yet, it’s all there for us to see. We just need to look.
Apollo

Aug 18, 2004, 9:48pm

I’ll write once in a while, and since he doesn’t have a problem… I queried him about his suggestion that there is something buried in the frog sounds in the beginning part of “Calling Occupants”. (Klaatu’s first song on their first album)
JoJo
Try not to fall into the trap of those that tend to “over-think.”
Do you hear “anything” when you reverse the sounds?
“We quit, we quit.”
A simple phrase. Nothing more, nothing less.
But, when added to the puzzle, makes perfect sense.
Apollo

Greetings, mate. You caught me at a good time. As for the “POE” connection, it serves more as a “blueprint” than an actual code. Although, many can be sussed. Same as Carroll, it serves the purpose to seek new ways of “seeing” what is there. There’s nothing you can see that isn’t shown. You just need to know what you’re looking for. Then it will all make sense. Kind of shines a new light on the subject. Many have actually hit the mark, but refused to accept the conclusions.
Funny how that keeps coming up, from time to time. Oh well, yeah life is good. Having a good death is more important.
Apollo

JoJo
Time to take a HARD look at “Memory Almost Full.”
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Apollo

I think he is referencing Feet in the Clouds
On the street
I had my feet on the ground
Stood corrected
Well protected
Resurrected
Had it my way
JoJo

Never an intrusion. You are always welcome.
I’ve not much interest in TKIN nowadays. I do however tour the grounds to see how they are doing.
I was quite shocked at the passing of Syd. Sad bloke. Happy now I’m sure. Timing IS everything.
Keep in touch
Apollo

JoJo
Syd’s story is not far removed from what we are trying to establish today. The story of one’s journey too close to the sun, and the legacy of those who bore witness to the feat. As far as his exit, reported on the day of Floyds release of Pulse on DVD, does the phrase “random precision” ring a (division) bell?
As for meself, going by what others have noted, I seem to either be a “reluctant meshiah” or crazed lunatic with much too much time on me hands.
I came to show that the truth you seek has been before you all the time. I have demonstrated how to peel away the layers to expose an even greater understanding of the depths one must travel to get to the root of the paradigm.
Remember mate, “There is nothing you can see that isn’t shown.”
Apollo

“As nature intends” deals quite nicely with the above analogy.
<snip>
Here’s another clue for you all…
The picture of the man at the piano is quite curious. Why would there be photos instead of sheet music displayed
on the piano? Hmmmmm…
Apollo

What you WILL find is that there is a strong indication of a “love” interest involving Tara Browne and Paul.
Paul’s choice of the name “Apollo” and the hyacinths used on Sgt. Pepper, suggest their relationship was a tad bit more than platonic.
If you have not had the pleasure,
do look up the myth of “Apollo and Hyacinthus.
Apollo

Understand, depending on your point of entry, you may not like what you find.
<snip>
So, choose your rabbit hole carefully.
There are two distinct points of entry.
Do not confuse the two.
Apollo

Being somewhat “intimate” with the subject at hand, I offered to assist in the only way I could.
Glad to see you’re aboard.
There was not much desire for Paul to return. The reasons being, well…the reason he left in the first place.
Plus, with the cast in place, he could afford more time to come ’round if he chose.
Paul was never totally out of sight. In fact, he managed to play a part in most of the behind the scenes part of running the Beatles.
Apollo

Apollo C. Vermouth wrote:
Pardon the intrusion…
<snip>
Tara was never married, nor had he any children.
<snip>
Dr. Robert, hits the nail on the head.
(The wife Tara never had is named Noreen MacSherry, and the children they didn’t have are named Dorian Clifford Browne and Julian Dominick Browne, and they are inconveniently still with us.)

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10 agosto 2003 Turned out nice again in free as a bird

“Turned out nice again, mother.”
Apollo

24 agosto 2003 klaatu, beatles connection

A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.”
Apollo

31 agosto 2003 Klaatu beatles connection

A fine job, indeed. The real test comes once the music starts. The cover clues leave no doubt as to “who” is plucking the strings.
The upper corners of the cover depict a familiar beast. What do you make of the bottom ones?
Keep searching the clues on the door.
One in particular is all you need.
Apollo

1 settembre 2003 Dig it

Perhaps there are credible connections between Klaatu/Beatles.
Terry Draper’s name keeps “coming up” on alot of these pages. “Can you pretend” to know the answers?
Why would people who bought “Let It Be”
also buy a 50’s sci-fi movie? What plausible connection could there be? Why would it even be mentioned? A clue, perhaps?
Apollo

8 ottobre 2003 Very very interesting article about beatles klaatu
Beatles/Klaatu connection?

Where have I heard that before?
Hmmmmmmm….
Apollo

24 ottobre 2003 The ruttles?

Point to ponder…
ANY involvement in ANY project by ANY “Beatle” outside the obvious must be considered suspect.
The clearest of clues can be found in the foggiest of places.
The Rutles
Klaatu
Badfinger
Bonzo Dog Band
Any “Apple” artist
The list is endless and ongoing. What a splendid way to spend your day.
Apollo

31 ottobre 2003 3 beatles album clue

Upon closer inspection of the drum pictured above…
The “L” contains a “loop” on the uper part of the letter. Looks more like a “P”.
The “O” is made of a spiral design, ending on the outside of the letter.
More indicitive of the letter “A”.
The “V” is “heart shaped” and more rounded in nature. More “U” shaped than what it is supposed to represent.
The “E” seems to be “cut off” at the top and middle. Looks more like an “L” to me.
P-A-U-L
Hmmmmmmmm……
Apollo

1 november 2003 Back to the back door at abbey road

As stated earlier in another thread, the original release included a magnifying glass so one could decipher the writings on the door.
Obviously, there remains an important clue that he wished you all would find.
The hunt begins…
Your on the right path.
Apollo

Post Script:
Rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. But, if I were dead, I would be the last to know.
Happy Halloween

1 novembre 2003 Apollo C. Vermouth

Who I am is not as important as who I am not.
It’s hard to hide in a carnival of light.
Apollo

(Note:Taken from a Spanish speaking site that compiled some of his posts)
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From a press conference in Amsterdam, 1976:

Question: There is a photo of the front door of Apple on the back of the cover, where did you get it?

Ringo: Neil Aspinall took it and sent us one each an I thought, “I’m gonna put it on the back of the album.” It’s a front door, but it’s a back door too. It’s got all these names scrawled on it from Finland. That’s why you’re getting a magnifying glass with the album, so you can read it all. And I thought it would be a nice bit of fun, especially for those who actually wrote on it. It used to be so smart, with a doorman and a pretty letterbox, and now it’s just…yeah!

That’s one we never figured out…but Finland seems pretty specific and back door seems to be a hint also…there’s something on that door that Neil thought was important enough to send to all of the Beatles.

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Pardon the illumination…

MMT is Pepper in a more “visual” form. It borrows from, and answers some. The cover design relates to Pepper in many visual clues. The concept was to take a journey. Visual points of interest discerned. Magicians noting the movements. Clues abound. They ALL point to Pepper. What if you wrote a book and nobody read it? I want to be a paperback writer…

Apollo

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John’s actual quote from the Tony Palmer episode — DVD #5 of “The Beatles : A Long & Winding Road”
“…and if you look closely at the album cover, you’ll see
2 people who are flying & 2 who aren’t…. (snicker)….
that’s just a little “in” joke…. (snicker).
Two of them didn’t share it with 2 others”
This wasn’t just acid? Apollo didn’t seem to think so…

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There exist many who have played a part in this ongoing drama.

Some are dead, and some are living.

Many have been mentioned in this forum. Some to a great extent, some merely in passing.

It would stagger the mind in knowing just how many different souls it took to replace just “one.”

Some seen and not heard, some heard and not seen, while others pulled the strings to create such an elaborate dance.

What had been an easy fix, turned more complicated with time.

Billy did not invent Neil. Neil is an actual person with the position within Apple that history has recorded. No mystery here.

That is not saying that Neil was a innocent bystander in all of this.

Just that the current line of thought is flawed way “beyond the beyond.”

Bill is an actual person as well.
Quite capable of filling in for a missing musician. His face is not as visible as “others” who had a more “visual” part to play, but the genesis rest on his shoulders.

Apollo

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Age-50 (something)

Occupation-Musician and “Castle Keep.” ( “Who rang that bell?!” ;D)

Country-Currently Stateside. And yes, it is beautiful here this time of year.

Interest-Far beyond that of mortal man.

Desired outcome-As nature intended.

History-Well, we can’t quite change that. But the future, now that’s another story!

I promised you a journey. You are well on your way.”

“The return to Pepperland holds many a secret, and is well worth the trip.”

“My payoff? There is none. Yours? Now that’s another matter.”

“It is as if someone had wrote the worlds greatest novel, and NOBODY read the last chapter.
Yet, a debate started as to how the story ends, or should end. All the while, the true ending is available for all to see.”

“The final chapter only exists when the rest of the pieces are assembled.”

“You can’t come to a conclusion till you reach the end.”

“Soon, with a little luck, all will be revealed.”

“One name alone is all you need.
Yet, there remains endless gaps that need be filled.
Billy only serves as an bridge to lead to the the “rest of the story.”

” ‘Billy’ is introduced as the ‘singer.’ Voice prints identify at least 3 different ‘Pauls.’ “

“Billy (Shepherd) was invented by Neil. (nom de plume) I’m not saying Neil is Billy the guy who “maybe is amazed”, know what I mean?”

“So Sgt Pepper took YOU by surprise…”

“Those freaks was right when they said you were dead.”

“RedLion, do you feel, at this point, that there is a difference?” (between JPM and Sir Paul)

“The ‘Paul’ that was involved in that project not only got to show what he had learned about music,
but what he had been involved in behind the curtain, so to speak.”

” I like a good confrontation. Just being here raises a few eyebrows on the other side of the curtain.”

“An attempt was made to distance William from his previous endeavors. Much was whitewashed concerning his ‘history.’ “

The “Bill” you SEE is not the “Bill” we are discussing.

Any other info regarding him I must hold close to my chest.

Sometimes the only way to the “truth” is through a series of well placed “lies.” ( comment on “the Poolies”)

Sylvie schmylvie.

“Try not to fall into the trap of those that tend to ‘over-think.’ “

“So, choose your rabbit hole carefully.”

Doc wrote:
“But, I know, that if he, ACV, were here…. right now, he would encourage us to study the flowers in the dirt on the cover of the Sgt. Peppers album just ONE MORE TIME” – (Apollo made many references to “flowers in the dirt”)

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Pardon the intrusion…

The key to this paradigm starts and ends with Sgt. Pepper.

This is why most clues resort back to Pepper in latter releases.

The walrus and mentions of Edgar Allen Poe on MMT begs a relook at Sgt. Pepper. Magical MYSTERY Tour, was the first attempt to get the public to re-examine the Pepper album.

Yellow Submarine deals with Pepperland and Sgt. Pepper’s band.

The “White Album” refers to clues left on Pepper and MMT. (Glass Onion)

How Do You Sleep, “So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise…”

Why the constant Pepper references?

Pepper was designed to tell a story. Every person and item on that cover is a clue unto itself. Think of it as chapters in a book, with Pepper being the whole of the book. Brilliant in it’s concept, it was lost on the public until late in ’69 at the height of the PID rumours. But it was not from lack of trying.

Your interest in this outshines a majority of the folks here who would rather find clues with smoke and mirrors than by going to the source.

Ask yourself…why leave clues and offer no resolution? Why leave clues to already existing clues?

Are you up to it?

Apollo

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Ah yes…nice indeed to chat with you again. “Pepper” was never really meant to be a “Beatle” album, persay. Nor was any intended follow-up fitting that particular schematic. “What we have here is failure to communicate.” The key to any illusion is misdirection. A few puffs of smoke, and the clever use of a mirror, can conjure the unthinkable. What was meant as a diversion, became a seperate entity. And, as I have mentioned,
great pains were taken to put the train back on the tracks, so to speak. “Pepper” was meant to invoke thought. It was to answer questions not yet asked. It was both a “hello” and “goodbye.” It didn’t work. “Tour” tried in vain to redirect your attention to the thing that escaped everybody’s perception. It didn’t work. “Submarine,” with it’s allusions to Sgt. Pepper, sunk as if it had screen doors. Look to these examples to find the missing links. This was our intention.

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Pardon the intrusion… There is more here than meets the kaleidoscope eyes. Is there a need to mention the “looking glass ties” to “Wool and Water”? Is it a waste of time to compare “rocking horse people” to the “Magical Mystery Boy” in MMT? The connections are there. The Walrus, and the egg. The challenge, “Let the fuckers figure this one out.”

Apollo

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Lucy (is the sky…) You are the “one.” Was there ever any doubt? You have the talent to “see” what others have missed. There will never be an end to this saga. Not in any of my wildest dreams did I ever expect this to continue as it has. Needless to say there have been, and continue to be, flights of fancy that are beyond the beyond, and beyond. It serves to muddy the waters, but also to seek out those smart enough not to be fooled. As badly as everyone wants the “answer”, those that have found it walk away in disbelief. Seems the picture doesn’t quite fit the frame. Einstein, (disguised as Robin Hood) once said “Imagination is more important than knowledge.” Seems to sum this up in a tidy little package. As far as I am concerned, words fail to describe what is currently going on in my life. This too shall pass. My only concern is where I will end up in the wake of events. My advice to you is continue looking at life with child like wonder. You’ll be surprised how beautiful things look when seen through a fresh pair of eyes. Do I need to worry about you? You remain in my thoughts and prayers and “visions”.

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Surprised to hear from you. Me? I’m doing quite well, despite the obvious.
The story line? In all truth, about 65% of what is written is based on things that actually happened. The remainder, sheer fantasy. Now, to figure what is, and what isn’t. It was agreed, BY ALL INVOLVED, that once the “story” is told, not to deviate from any previous statements. You know, and I know, that there ARE clues to be found on Pepper. Just what those “clues” allude to, has not yet been figured out. But, when asked of John, George, or Ringo, there was always the “total rubbish” response. That is the story line. Deny! I have been accused of “jerking you all off” with my cryptic responses. Truth is, you’ve been jerked off from day one! THAT was part of the “story line.” A little mystery for you to figure out.Apollo

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Pardon the illumination…

MMT is Pepper in a more “visual” form. It borrows from, and answers some. The cover design relates to Pepper in many visual clues. The concept was to take a journey. Visual points of interest discerned. Magicians noting the movements. Clues abound. They ALL point to Pepper. What if you wrote a book and nobody read it? I want to be a paperback writer…

Apollo

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Greetings

I don’t mind being “disturbed.” Many feel I’ve been disturbed for quite some time. I know this has been mentioned several times before, but it does come close to home. Remember that show on the telly, “Bewitched”? The original actor playing Darrin passed away. They quickly replaced him with another actor, to keep the show intact. Now, the original Darrin needn’t have died. Maybe, he just said “fook it” and headed for greener pastures. Went on holiday, so to speak. But, to keep the original premise in place, somebody had to assume the role.
Now imagine, if you will, that scenario in context to this “mystery.” Only in this case, the original Darrin came back to the show, after his fancy of leaving proved to be not quite in his best interest. By then, the show was on the “outs”, and the cast grew tired of each other, thus putting an end to the show. Now, each blamed the other for the demise, for whatever reason they could muster, and went their seperate ways. It’s kinda like that. Only different. I told ya I was disturbed.

Apollo

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Pardon the intrusion…

I respect everyone of your beliefs. We are, at the very least, entitled to voice our opinions in the theatre of ideas.

My stance has been from day one, that the mystery you wish to solve has already been solved. One must just know how, and what to look for.

Dealing, as some have, with bits and pieces and forming conclusions from what was available on hand has led many to the wrong conclusions.

I have been accused as being too mysterious and cryptic in my dealings with you. I have good reason to be. You would like the short answer, I cannot provide it for you.

I CAN however show you sights you have yet to see, point you in directions that may have not occured to you, and hope that the new discoveries will tie in to the next.

As nature intended.

In response to your previous questions, the “cast” was not that wide spread. A tidy unit that grew and shrunk as was needed.

And yes, the numbers are dwindling
though many KEY players are still involved with the scene in some distant “universe”.

“Brother, can you take me back…”

“Come home brother, all is forgiven…”

“Theres nothing you can see that isn’t shown.”

Apollo”

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No “one” person could replace Paul.

Bill was chosen for his ties with the Beatles, his knowlege of their history, and that he was quite a capable musician and writer.

Within the studio, Bill managed to fill the gap.

Outside the studio, was quite a different story.

Several recruits were used for differing reasons,

Some used for photo ops, others for interviews. It required quite a cast of characters. It also explains the dfferences in photo comparisons.

We refer to our replacement as “Bill.” But, he was more “heard” than “seen.”

Apollo

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There are many fingers used to make a human hand.

One hand…many fingers.

Bill is the hand.

Apollo

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Lucy (in disguise)
Points to ponder…
Ever wonder about the multiple references to our old friend, Edgar Allen Poe?
As well as developing codes and ciphers embedded in his works, an art well noticed and used in latter Beatle releases. He also has a fascinating connection on the Sgt. Pepper with another “face” there as well.
Terry Southern wrote the book, “Dr Strangelove”. He is featured on the cover as well. In the 1964 movie of the same name, the code used as the disarming of the bomb was “Purity of Essense” and “Peace on Earth.”
Or, simply POE.
The reason it is in all caps in the MMT lyric sheet.
This movie was directed by one Stanley Kubrick, whose discarded aerial footage was used during the song “Flying” on the MMT movie. A song that holds a special footnote as being the only Beatle song credited to all four as writers.
Lets recap…
Edgar Allen Poe appears with Terry Southern on the Sgt. Pepper cover.
Edgar Allen Poe is mentioned in the song “I am the Walrus” from the MMT album.
The “walrus” appears on the Sgt. Pepper cover with help from a handy mirror, much the same as the drum skin clue.
Southern writes the book “Dr. Strangelove” which within its pages gives the disarm code for the bomb as “POE” which stands for “Peace on Earth” and “Purity of Essense.”
“Dr. Strangelove” is directed by Stanley Kubrick, whose unused aerial footage is used in the MMT movie during the song “Flying” whose writing credits were Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, and Starr. The ONLY time all four shared a writing credit on a song.
Do you see a pattern here?
Theres NOTHING you can SEE that isn’t SHOWN…it’s easy!
Apollo
Feb 5, 2004, 10:43pm

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“If one was to grasp the totality of this subject matter, a simple answer emerges. The beauty of the Beatles, pre and post ’66, is that EVERYTHING is as it should be. No mere happenstance. But, amongst the creation is chaos. THAT chaos, is what has brought you all here in the first place. In the early days, the die was cast. As time crept along, and popularity increased, there were not many musicians that would not fancy a play with the band. There are many talented bassist. On Pepper, it is mainly Paul. When not available, and there was a time he was not, K—-(my omission) could fill the shoes (if you know what I mean). John was quite able to fill in, as was George. We were never in want of a good bass player. Just where one stops and another begins is left to the beholder.”

Apollo

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End of Posts
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So as you can read, Apollo C Vermouth left all of these cryptic clues as to what the Beatles were really up to, and at one point states that only 65% of it is the truth, the other 35% is a previously agreed to story that is sheer fantasy…and its up to the reader to figure out which is which. Is this real? I happen to think it is. His posts make more sense obviously in the context of the threads he was posting in, you’d have to go back to Nothing is Real and The King is Naked to find those threads.
This is why people aren’t quitting on this, especially those of us who think Paul is Dead is simply allegorical and there is a much deeper mystery being alluded to…one that people chose to take to their graves.
Intrigued?

922 – Nature’s Child

Re: Paul Is Dead True Story
« Reply #13 on Aug 12, 2007, 1:18am »
Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes.

Apollo C. Vermouth

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On the road to Rishikesh
I was dreaming more or less
And the dream I had was true
Yes, the dream I had was true

I’m just a child of nature
I don’t need much to set me free
I’m just child of nature
I’m one of nature’s children

Sunlight shining in your eyes
As I face the desert skies
And my thoughts return to home
Yes, my thoughts return to home

I’m just a child of nature
I don’t need much to set me free
I’m just a child of nature
I’m one nature’s children

Underneath the mountain ranges
Where the wind that never changes
Touch the windows of my soul
Touch the windows of my soul

I’m just a child of nature
I don’t need much to set me free
I’m just a child of nature
I’m one of nature’s children

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Is Apollo talking about John?

More from Apollo

More posts from Apollo C. Vermouth

 

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #27 on Mar 30, 2004, 10:30pm »


This particular fellow is the member of the Royal Antediluvian Order of the Buffaloes. (R.A.O.B)

This group is known for the charitable acts they engage in to further the “pursuit of brotherhood.”

When one thinks of the couuntless numbers of individuals to choose from for the cover of Sgt. Pepper, it makes one wonder why those who appear were the “chosen ones.”

Take Stockhausen, for example. Several
telegrams were wired to him for approval in an almost frantic attempt to get him included on the cover.

Why?

Seems a bit more calculated than just liking the sound of the names.

Upon a closer look, there seems to be some connections with the different faces that appear on the cover as well.

Much more than mere happenstance.

Many of the items such as the “Paul?”
flower display and the other articles
found gracing the cover tell a story as well.

There is more going on than meets the eye.

“There is nothing you can see that isn’t shown.”

Apollo

In July of 1966, Dylan was involved in a very serious motorcycle accident and spent many months in seclusion.

Besides being a strong influence in John’s writing style, he would be a likely canidate for inclusion on the Pepper cover using Harb’s observations.

Yet, there remains some rather strange
“connections” with other invited guest.

Edgar Allen Poe holds a rather dubious
record in Beatle lore. Not only appearing on the Pepper cover, but also being mentioned in song (I am the Walrus), and even speculated to have been the inspiration for the song “Blackbird” from his epic poem titled
“The Raven”, and the inclusion of the word “Eldorado” heard on “Revolution #9” from a poem by the same name.

Poe’s early works, mostly written for a Philly newspaper, dealt in the art of solving ciphers by using available clues.

His first books used many ciphers and written clues to solve the mystery along with the characters in the book.
The most obvious being a novel titled “The Goldbug.”

These tactics were not oblivious to the Beatles, who used the technigue to a great extent in developing the cover for Sgt. Pepper.

One strange connection is with the author Terry Southern who is also amongst the crowd on Pepper. Southern, among other great books, is known for his penning of “Dr. Strangelove,” which later became a hit movie by the same name.

In the book/movie, the dis-arm code used to diffuse the “bomb” was named “P.O.E.”, short for “Peace on Earth.”

The movie was directed by none other than Stanley Kubrick, whose unused footage from another film was used during the “Flying” segment on the “Magical Mystery Tour” movie.

And, it doesn’t stop there folks.

But we’ll leave that for another day.

Remember:
There’s NOTHING you can KNOW that isn’t KNOWN.

Apollo

Re: WALRUS
« Result #25 on Apr 2, 2004, 9:51pm »


Points to ponder…

So many of the supposed “clues” found on MMT seem to point back towards Sgt. Pepper.

Case in point:

Hidden on the Pepper cover is a WALRUS.
Using your trusty mirror, place it vertically touching Diana Dors left elbow.

See him?

Yet, this “clue” pre-dates any mention in Beatle lore of a walrus. That would come on the following release, MMT.

Compare the two covers to each other.

On each cover the lads are dressed in costumes, each related, but different.

Both covers depict them as “another” band.

They both show them standing behind a banner. To the rear are a collection of stars, people on Pepper, actual star shapes on MMT.

Both albums feature a reference to Edgar Allen Poe, and our pesky friend, the Walrus.

And to Harb:

On your site, regarding clues found in the MMT booklet, you show the pic of John and George during the “Death Cab for Cutie” sequence, and state that no clues were found on that page.

But, the clue IS the picture!

It shows (memory lapse) either John or George wearing an item with a HEART on it, while sitting in a CLUB, watching a BAND.

It’s as though they chose to draw attention back to Pepper.

WHY?

And all this years before any of the PID rumours came to the surface.

What are we missing?

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #24 on Apr 3, 2004, 2:54pm »


Lewis Carroll, besides gracing the cover of Pepper, may have had a hand in it’s recording as well.

We all know what effect he had on John and his unique style of writing, so we will pass over that one for now.

But little known is the technique employed by George Martin and Lennon for the organ sounds on “Mr. Kite.”

In the book titled, “Phantasmagoria and Other Poems” written by Carroll, is the poem “Poeta Fit, Non Nascitur.”

The poem involves a young man seeking advice from a more seasoned poet on how he could become a poet himself.

The elderly poet tells him in the following stanzas:

“For first you write a sentence, and then you chop it small.

Then mix the bits and sort them out,
just as they chance to fall.

The order of the phrases
makes no difference at all.”

This being the exact ploy used in the organ parts mixed into the song.

It shows to what extent the background information on each member of the “crowd” was used to formulate the creation of Sgt. Pepper and the mystery
surrounding it.

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #23 on Apr 4, 2004, 3:40pm »


“It seems very pretty,” she said when she had finished it, “but it’s rather hard to understand!” (You see she didn’t like to confess even to herself,
that she couldn’t make it out at all)
“Somehow it fills my head with ideas–
only I don’t exactly know what they are! However, somebody killed something: that’s clear, at any rate—”

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #22 on Apr 11, 2004, 10:01am »


“I saw a film today, oh boy, the English army had just won the war…”

There seems to be a small connection between the above lines from “A Day in the Life,” and the mysterious “Billy Shears.”

Although purely conjecture on my part,
it would seem that the “film” mentioned
may have been “The Bridge Over the River Kwai.”

Why?

Not to bore you with a synopsis of the film, (you can explore that one on your own) but it concerns members of the English army being held in a Japanese prison camp and used to construct a tactical bridge for their captors.

In the end, the bridge was ultimately
built and then destroyed by the English army, thus aiding in the victory over the Japanese.

One major character in the film, Lt. Commander SHEARS, was played by actor WILLIAM Holden. This character plays a pivitol role in the destruction of the bridge. In one scene, he tells a nurse that “all you need is love.” Actually, one of the memorable lines of the movie.

Could the name “Billy Shears” of SPLHCB be inspired by the character of this flim mentioned on the same album?

Seems logical as the mention of seeing a “film” was important enough to become lyrics of a song. What profound effect
did it have on Lennon, who went on to play in a movie titled, “How I Won the War.”

Comments?

Happy Easter!

Apollo

Re: WALRUS
« Result #21 on May 1, 2004, 12:42pm »


Valid points, Larry.

Still, outside the Beatle’s inner-circle, there was nary a mention
of the “walrus” at the time of Sgt. Pepper’s release.

That would follow shortly after.

Yet, he remains “hidden” amongst the notable faces on Pepper.

It is my belief that there remains a plethora of clues on the Pepper cover that have yet seen the “light of day.”

It stands to reason that many subsequent “clues” that followed directed attention back to Sgt. Pepper.

“Magical Mystery Tour” contained many “Pepper” clues, and introduced our “walrus” to the public.

“Yellow Submarine” was based on the “Sgt. Pepper” theme.

Both “Abbey Road” and the “White Album” make reference to the “walrus” in song.

The “walrus” and “Sgt. Pepper” are even mentioned in Lennon’s solo work, and appears in Harrison’s “Fab” video.

They are directing our attention back to find what was missed.

And, going to great lengths to do so.

Apollo

Re: WALRUS
« Result #20 on May 2, 2004, 12:51am »


Thanks, JoJo!

Again, this was the “Death Cab for Cutie” segment of the MMT movie.

It shows John with a “heart” on his hat while sitting in a “club” watching a “band.”

I had not noticed George’s hat, or the peculiar fellow in uniform with the straws. Great work!!

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #19 on May 2, 2004, 1:21am »


Seems that Lewis Carroll’s inspiration, usually associated with Lennon’s work during the Sgt. Pepper/Magical Mystery Tour era, extends beyond the obvious and presents itself in places unexpected.

There is a connection with Carroll and McCartney’s song, “Hey Jude.”

In the “Through the Looking Glass” books, it seems that the White Queen has a habit that when she says the word “better,” she repeats it over and over again, each time getting more high pitched and louder until it ends in a squeal. At which time she completely transform herself into a “new creature”
or a new location.

Sound familiar?

“Better, better, better…”

Apollo

Re: KLAATU
« Result #18 on May 6, 2004, 9:10pm »


Another topic dear to my heart.

We’ll take this is segments, as there is much to discuss.

Let’s start at the beginning…

In 1976, an album was released by a band named KLAATU. It was released on the Canadian affiliate of Capitol Records. No biographical information was included on the album jacket. Instead, it simply stated that all songs were written and performed by KLAATU. No pictures of the band graced the cover. Inquiries to Capitol for any info on this “mystery” band were left unanswered.

The problem was quite simply, the music contained within the grooves bore a striking Beatle-esque quality. With little imagination and a good set of ears, the vocals of Lennon and McCartney, Harrison and Starr could be heard amongst the Sgt. Pepper-ish era tunes.

Was this the second coming?

The album in question titled “3:47 EST”
in Cananda, and simply “Klaatu” here in the U.S. was soon rumored to be a un-released Beatle album that was a follow up to “Revolver.” That album was soon scrapped due to the death of Paul McCartney in a car accident in 1966. A replacement “Paul” was found, groomed, and presented to the world with the release of Sgt. Pepper. This was the account of why there was such a delay between the release of “Revolver” and “Sgt. Pepper.”

Time went by, and the tapes were re-discovered while combing through the excess while initial plans were in the making for what we now know as the “Anthology.” The album was then completed, and released under am assumed name as a tribute to McCartney in ’76.

Had the Beatles re-united in Canada under an assumed name in 1976 and released an album in memory of a fallen mate? And if so, what tell-tale “clues” could be discerned to prove just that?

To be continued…(if you’re interested)

Apollo

Re: KLAATU
« Result #17 on May 7, 2004, 9:53pm »


Thanks for the replies!

Before I continue, I must address the fact that I personally do not find the “lost album” theory plausible.

Yet, it does not dampen the belief that indeed some, if not all of the Beatles
had a hand in the production of this album.

It was not uncommon for the lads to write, perform with, and produce artists under assumed names. Many examples can be found of this fact.

First, lets look at some of the visual clues found on the front and back covers of the record.

The name KLAATU, came from a 1950s era sci-fi film titled “The Day the Earth Stood Still.” As earlier discussed, the name was lifted from the lead character in the film.

A still from the film was used by Ringo Starr, with his face super-imposed upon the Klaatu character for his album “Goodnight Vienna.”

The large “Sun” on the cover can also be found inside the gatefold of George’s “33 1/3.” It is said that the face on the “sun” is a composite of John’s nose and chin, and Paul’s eyes.
Said to represent the common use of the “sun” in numerous Beatle lyrics and song titles.

The ornate scroll work that frames the front cover picture in the upper right and left corners resembles the head of a “ram.” Possibly an indication of Paul’s contributions to the record.
The reverse of the cover shows a planet that seems to mimic the “Venus and Mars” cover, as well. In the movie, when the character Klaatu was asked where he came from, he answered ” Venus and Mars.” Also, at the end of one particular McCartney concert, he said to the crowd, “See you when the Earth stands still..” before he departed the stage.

Along the bottom edge of the front cover is a row of shrubs. It is said that the letters spelling B-e-a-t-l-e-s can be found in the tangle of limbs.

There is also a small mouse (more on him later) pictured on the front cover.
It is implied that it’s name is “Little Neutrino.”(more on that later, as well)

Sound familiar?

A “neutrino” is a particle that can dis-appear, and re-appear at will. It can also pass through solid objects unknown and uneffected.

These are several of the supposed clues found on the cover . They seem to be referenced by the the solo works of the Beatles albums during this time period.

When asked of Paul McCartney if the Beatles would ever reunite, he once quipped that if they ever did, it would be soley for the music, and not the hype that surrounded it. ” A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.”

Next we’ll look at the words found in the lyrics of the songs for further clues…

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #16 on May 7, 2004, 10:22pm »


Some of the items found on the cover tell a story as well.

Consider the use of the Hyacinth plant used to form the word “Beatles” on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.

What possible connection could be associated with a flower??

Lets take a look at the myth of it’s creation.

Hyacinthus, young son of the King of Sparta, beautiful like the very gods of Mount Olympos, was beloved by Apollo, the shooter of arrows.

The two would meet on the banks of the Eurotas River, and delight in various pastimes.

One day while the pair was trying to out do each other in a game of discus throwing, Hyacinthus trying to chase down Apollo’s last throw, was struck in the HEAD by the falling discus and killed.

Apollo, heartbroken at the loss of his friend by his own hand, and clutching the lifeless body in his arms, vowed to have him remembered for all time.

With one word from Apollo, a fragrant red flower arose from the spilled blood of his friend on the ground. On its petals you can still read the letters “Ay,” the sigh of pain that rose from Apollo’s grief stricken heart at the loss.

It seems curious that later in his carreer that McCartney would choose the name “APOLLO C. Vermouth” to produce a song for the Bozo Dog Band. A band that earlier was to provide the only non-Beatle song for the Magical Mystery Tour film.

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #15 on May 8, 2004, 12:39am »


Interesting question, my good doctor.

I can only speculate as to the dubious inclusion of the Hyacinth plant on the cover.

I suspect it refers to the tragic death of Tara Browne. Both he and Paul were very close, and keeping with the mythology would seem to make sense.
And, the choice of Paul to assume the name of “Apollo” later in life only serves to cement the theory.

Yet, the flowers spell out the word “Beatles,” and the rumors of Paul’s death from head wounds suffered in a car accident puts a very unusual twist
to the mix.

Both scenarios would seem to follow suit.

Consider this for a moment…

Tara Browne was the “heir” to the Guiness fortune.

He was killed at a young age in a car accident.

“You were in a car crash, and you lost your hair.”

Ever notice that the words “hair” and “heir” can sound somewhat similar?

Just a silly tid-bit I pulled from my arse. Though it makes me wonder.

“You were in a car crash, and you lost your heir.”

Makes sense to me, if looked at in that manner.

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #14 on May 8, 2004, 1:42pm »


Great questions, Darkhorse!

Like I said, I simply was playing around with the premise.

But, to answer your query, if Paul and Tara were both killed in seperate accidents, and the “Paul” from Sgt. Pepper was not who he seemed, then regardless of any relationship betwixt the two, the new “Paul” would have no reference to that freindship. It would fall on the other three to point it out.

From all accounts, John did not seem to be that close to Tara, citing that “A Day in the Life” was written partially about “that Guinness CHILD.” No love lost there, it appears.

You bring up some valid points.

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #13 on May 8, 2004, 7:51pm »


I have always felt the lines from McCartney’s, “Venus and Mars” dealt briefly with a slightly intoxicated Tara leading up to the accident.

“Red lights, green lights, strawberry wine, a good friend of mine, follows the stars, Venus and Mars are alright tonight.’

Tara was known, through his personal wealth, to be able to hang with the hip crowd of the day.

“He blew his mind out in a car, he didn’t notice that the lights had changed.”

I’m sure there are other references to him, sprinkled about Paul’s solo work.

As far as “Fara” is concerned, I see little evidence to support such a theory. Interesting concept, though.
And, one that may warrant a closer look.

The whole reference to “Venus and Mars” itself may need a closer look as well.

It is semi-apparent that mythology may play a significant role in unfolding the story line.

I’ll take a peak and see what I can find. Anyone care to join me?

Apollo

Re: People In Sgt Pepper’s Cover
« Result #12 on May 9, 2004, 11:05am »


Interesting choice of words, Doc. There seems to be a book titled “Shutters and Blinds,” that deals with aspects of Tara’a death. Forgot the author’s name at this time.

Seems that Tara was killed in the early
morning hours of 12-18-66. He was traveling to visit David Vaughn, who was doing some painting on the front of Tara’s Kings Road shop Dandy Fashions.

He smashed his Lotus Elan into the rear of a parked van while swerving to avoid a Volkswagon that pulled out in his path in Redcliffe Gardens in Earls Court.

From what I can glean, he was with a female friend who escaped the accident with minor injuries. Tara was dead at the scene.

As far as “Venus and Mars” are concerned, there are several differing stories. Venus is the god of peace, Mars the god of war. They were lovers, such as Hyacinthus and Apollo were lovers to a different degree.

Didn’t really find anything beyond that after a cursory search.

Happy Mother’s Day!

Apollo

Re: Did George Really Sing Fool on the Hill?
« Result #11 on May 12, 2004, 10:13pm »


“Ev’rybody’s talking ’bout Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, This-ism, That-ism, ism, ism, ism…”

Apollo-ism

Re: SIR GEORGE’S COAT OF ARMS
« Result #9 on Nov 24, 2004, 8:01pm »


Some points to ponder…

The “bird”, a Martin, holds the recorder in “bend sinister.” This being an old sign of illegitimacy. Sir George either feels like a “bastard”, or feels he worked with some “bastards.”

The white area betwixt the three beetles is called a “fess nebuly.”
It is thought to represent either “clouds’ or “Heaven.”
The lines contained within are called “barrulets” and may represent the muusical staff. If so, the absent notes may speak volumes.

Lastly, the zebra marches from right to left holding an “Abbot”s crozier.”

Can you think of any other “zebra crossings” this may refer too?

Apollo

Re: We all look at a “faul” figurine!
« Result #8 on Nov 24, 2004, 8:08pm »


Another tasty tidbit…

When originally released, there was a second “Paul” figurine released as well. Same as shown above, yet the the other character in the set was “Captain Fred.”

Somewhat harder to find, it can be found still on eBay.

No word if it will be re-released as well with this lot.

Apollo

SIR PAUL’S COAT OF ARMS
« Result #7 on Nov 24, 2004, 11:30pm »


Thought maybe you would enjoy this…

http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/news/1223paulcoatofarms.html

Apollo

*edited in order to post the pic for Apollo

Re: Window On Yellow Sub Decapitated Head With Hal
« Result #6 on Mar 22, 2006, 8:27pm »


Sorry for the intrusion…

The “P” stands for “Pepperland.” This is another failed attempt to divert your attention back to the clues on Sgt. Pepper.

Numerous attempts were made post “Pepper” to redirect your focus. By this time, the “grand design” becomes a parody of itself. Do not confuse the two. It is a mistake that echoes to this day.

All is not lost. The message still remains.

Apollo

Re: Pepperpots Billy- probably not with Bee Gees
« Result #5 on Aug 30, 2006, 8:25pm »


Pardon the intrusion…

Let’s see…The band on the cover was not the band on the record, but merely several lads in suits, made to look somewhat Beatle-ish, but appearing to look nothing like the Beatles themselves, which the band playing on the record could have pulled off if they had worn suits and had a picture taken and used it on the cover.
Quick…drink the Kool-Aid.

Apollo

Re: Tara Browne
« Result #4 on Jan 29, 2007, 9:01pm »


Pardon the intrusion…

Seems that much has been made of Tara’s passing only through mention in part during “A Day in the Life.”
His “widowed bride” being excluded in most publications. Her name is Noreen MacSherry. She bore two sons. Tara being 21 years of age when he passed. Yet, nary a mention of the marriage in 1964. He being the son of the 4th Lord Oranmore and Browne and Oonagh Guinness, seems to beg for a polite mention on the “society page.”

Apollo

 

922 – A Touch of Vermouth

From TKIN

As Beacon pointed out earlier, if Lonely Hearts, using ordinal position, were to be in use by the Beatles to send a message, using British date structure would be in fact August 12th, with December 8th then being the “what is being communicated through them” piece.

August 12th 1966 being John Lennon’s apology for more popular than Jesus, which was a completely accurate statement misconstrued by the southern US and the media.

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Re: Paul Is Dead True Story
« Reply #13 on Aug 12, 2007, 1:18am »
Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes.

Apollo C. Vermouth

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Apollo’s final post. Remember that Apollo talked of what he was at liberty to say on September 3 2006.

Beacon, note the date of Apollo’s last post…